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''[Everyone laughs.]''
''[Jason sticks his head out. Everyone laughs.]''


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'''BRIAN:'''
'''BRIAN:'''
Um, so again, to give some credit to- to Jack. So when I- when I started this, uhh, when I decided that we were gonna start this podcast, umm, and we all started talking about it, Jack immediately said he would help out in any way that he could. Um, he sat down and walked me through some video editing stuff, and- and gave me some tips on YouTube. And so, just a godsend. I mean, just right in the right moment. I mean, the week before we started, I mean, I sat down, and Jack was just there to help. And he said: "You know, uhh, God has blessed me, and- and I told God as soon as, uhh, I started this that I would- I would give back." And- and that's what he did. And so he helped us kinda on the front end get this stuff going. So... thank you, appreciate that.  
Um, so again, to give some credit to- to Jack. So when I- When I started this, uhh- When I decided that we were gonna start this podcast, umm, and we all started talking about it, Jack immediately said he would help out in any way that he could. Um, he sat down and walked me through some video editing stuff, and- and gave me some tips on YouTube. And so, just a godsend. I mean, just right in the right moment. I mean, the week before we started, I mean, I sat down, and Jack was just there to help. And he said: "You know, uhh, God has blessed me, and- and I told God as soon as, uhh, I started this that I would- I would give back." And- And that's what he did. And so he helped us kinda on the front end get this stuff going. So... thank you, appreciate that.  
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So, so uhm, so- so I- I meet [Tammy]. She, um... Shawn Parr ironically is here in Nashville.  
So- So uhm, so- So I- I meet [Tammy]. She, um... Shawn Parr ironically is here in Nashville.  
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''[Krystal laughs.]''
''[Jack gestures at his fat self. Krystal laughs.]''


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And he was the bar!
And he was the bar!
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''[Jack dismissively throws his hand.]''


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...And by the way, Jay was a nice guy.  
...By the way, Jay was a nice guy.  
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And I basically got the message to her that this ain't ever gonna stop. This is not- So you either need to go out with me and say, "It's not gonna work out," or- But we *are* going out.  
And I basically got the message to her that this ain't ever gonna stop. This is not- So you either need to go out with me and say: "It's not gonna work out" or- But we ''ARE'' going out.  
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And, and I couldn't stop thinking about her. And every week, I go to the bowling alley. "Will you please go out with me? I don't care about your job. I don't care aboutanyofthatstuff." So [Tammy], so do you wanna talk about our first date, or do you want me to?  
And, and I couldn't stop thinking about her. And every week, I go to the bowling alley: "Will you please go out with me? I don't care about your job. I don't care aboutanyofthatstuff." So [Tammy], so do you wanna talk about our first date, or do you want me to?  
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''[Jack makes a mocking face; Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
''[Jack makes a mocking face. Brian and Krystal laugh.]''


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'''TAMMY:'''
Well, I was busy! Keep myself busy, everything. Yeah, so, so anyway, so I finally said yes, and he said that he was gonna take me to Elizabeth Curtain Call, which was a dinner and show - like a small, like, Broadway theater show. Um, so-  
Well, I was busy! Keep' myself busy, everything. Yeah, so, so anyway, so I finally said yes, and he said that he was gonna take me to Elizabeth Curtain Call, which was a dinner and show - like a small, like, Broadway theater show. Um, so-  
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I- they do the matchmaker song.  
I- They do the matchmaker song.  
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That was later. We, we saw Any- we saw Anything Goes.  
That was later. We, we saw ''Any''- we saw ''Anything Goes''.  
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Anything Goes. But anyway...
''Anything Goes''. But anyway...
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah. Yeah. So- so I got ready, and then he came, picked me up and... Go ahead.
Yeah. Yeah. So- So I got ready, and then he came, picked me up and... Go ahead.
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''[Tammy gestures at Jack.]''


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So I was massively sick that day. 103 degrees. I took my temperature before I had the date.  
So... I was massively sick that day. 103 degrees. I took my temperature before I had the date.  
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]
''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''


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Well, you were prepared from early on.  
You were prepared from early on.  
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yes. Yes.
Yes~ Yes. So, um, so anyway. So then we went on our date, and that was it.
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah. And then, uh, g- Um, so let's talk about, uh, I think I wanna share with everybody... how hard it is to bring somebody in when the child's already there.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
Uh, she came in when he was three.
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Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
So he really only knows her as "Mom". He's had a relationship with his real mom, and that was more of a weekend-type thing. Um, and I had custody. So- So she helped raise - and she's 19, no child, and... I mean, straight out, it- it was hard.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
Because as he got older, she's not Mom, and she's trying to control, and discipline, and love and everything. And it- it was... I applaud her.
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'''TAMMY:'''
But I'm doing the baseball, the karate, the- the instrument lessons that never worked out...
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Mm-hmm.
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'''TAMMY:'''
...You know, all that. So...
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Right. So-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Right.
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'''JACK:'''
...Um, uh, how open can we get on this show?
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'''BRIAN:'''
As open as you wanna be.
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''[Tammy laughs.]''
 
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'''BRIAN:'''
The more- The more open, the better.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah, you better make sure it's okay.
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
 
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No, I'm- No!-
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You might wanna write it on a piece of paper and slide it over!
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'''TAMMY:'''
No!
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No, my- Wait- No!- No- My- My- My son, uh, is very open about it already on social media, so-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yes.
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'''JACK:'''
...She was amazing with him, and everything I wanted. And then we got married, and we had a country wedding.
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Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
So that everybody could show up in jeans, 'cause I hate weddings. I've DJed weddings too.
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''[Brian laughs.]''
 
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'''JACK:'''
And I wanted everybody to be comfortable at our wedding.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
And it was the most- To this day, they're talking about how great that wedding was.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
"You could come in your jeans! It's awesome."
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Right.
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'''JACK:'''
Um, so, um- So we get married, and then she- sh- That's when I gave myself to Christ, right before we got married. And I was all for it, sure. I- I'm totally open to God. I wanna learn more, and if that means I- how I spend the rest of my life with you, I'll be obedient. Be obedient to God.
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'''TAMMY:'''
We were already going to church-
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'''JACK:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''TAMMY:'''
...That's how I sucked him in through-
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Sucked me in. ''[laughs]''
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'''TAMMY:'''
...With Garrett- With Garrett. I used the child to get him to go to church 'cause, um, he wasn't raised in it and I was. I was raised Baptist, private school all the way-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''TAMMY:'''
...Up 'til junior high, and then public after that. Um, so we were already going to church. I'm like: "What's the deal? Like, just step forward."
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'''JACK:'''
Alright, so-
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'''TAMMY:'''
"Like, really?" -What?
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''[Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
 
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'''JACK:'''
...So let's- Let's jump to the part- This is really- This is the key part here. We did a great job parenting. We didn't do the best job, and- But we did the best we could at the time.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
The other side, who, uh, she's a totally sweet person, but... was not strict at all. He had carte blanche.
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Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
So every weekend was carte blanche, and every Monday or Tuesday, we were hammering our kid to get him back into shape.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Right.
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'''JACK:'''
By the time Wednesday, Thursday rolls around, he's finally our child again. Friday comes, she picks him up. And he'll- He'll admit to you, it destroyed him.
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'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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''[Someone in the background coughs.]''
 
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'''JACK:'''
It was-
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Having two such different environments that you're trying to-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Right.
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah!
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Reconcile when you're a kid.
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'''JACK:'''
It was like- It was- It was rough. And he starts- 'Cause he couldn't handle it. I was "Mr. Strict Parent".
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
And she... just didn't do anything, and it was- it w- it just messed him up.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
And so he starts having rage issues. So, uh- So we had to deal with that, and as he got into his teen years, um, he- he had a great home life. He had everything his heart desired. He never went without.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
Um, he, uh- He started to hang out with the wrong crowd at high- in California high schools. Uh, and I want to be specific about that, because California high schools are rough.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
They're full of kids that don't wanna be there. Full of gangs. And-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Teachers that don't wanna be there.
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'''JACK:'''
...They're- They're- They're little jails.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
I call them little jails. And, uh- So he hung out with the- He chose to hang out with his friends, and become who they were. A- Against our will, against our wishes. Um, and we- I remember the first bad thing he did, uh... Oh! Um, I- I wanted- I wanted him to, at age 13, to start his own company. We talked about it. We want to encourage him to start early. We don't want him just wasting money and blowing money.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
We want him to earn money and- and get excited about something that's his.
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Right.
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'''JACK:'''
And so by the time he's 18, he would have something that's already substantial, right? So- So we got him into building computers. And, uh, I took him to a shop in Huntington Beach. Every three times a week, he was interning there. They were teaching him how to put it all together... and that was where he learned how to smoke pot. And...
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''[Jack freezes up. Krystal and Tammy smirk at each other.]''
 
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'''JACK:'''
...And I still haven't given that one up. That I was the reason he started smoking pot. I encouraged him, I found the place, and I got my son hooked on drugs.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
And, uh... It, uhh... umm... It's tough, and I- I- I should... I should definitely deal with that. But, uh, he... It- It escalated, and he started, uh- started cursing at Tammy and me, and having rage issues. And there were two times, once, he put his hand on me, and- and it wasn't like he pushed me, but it was in an aggressive way.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
And I took him down to the ground. I threw him down to the ground. And then the second time, he put his hands on... Tammy. Pushed her up against the door, and... I took him to the ground and I was gonna kill him. I was choking him out. And... I hadn't fought since school. The only time you stop fighting in school is the principal's coming. But this was the moment... I was choking him and screaming in his ears: "You don't ever touch a woman. You don't ''EVER'' touch a woman!" at the top of my voice. I was choking him so hard, his nose started to bleed.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Oh, wow.
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'''JACK:'''
And... I didn't know when to stop. And his friend was in the room and stepped over us. I don't remember him leaving. But, uh- The interesting thing was: Garrett never fought me, never pushed back, never tried to hurt me or hit me. He completely submitted. Which... O- Out of respect? Love? I don't know. Fear? I don't know. I never understood that. So, we- We had some rough times, and that's when we had to let him go at age 16. And say: "You're no longer ever allowed in this house. We will love you. We will, you know, give you advice. We will do whatever you need, but we'll never give you money. And we were nev-" 'cau- 'cause he was addicted to marijuana.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
We didn't realize how bad it was yet. But, uh: "A- And we won't give you a roof over your head, but we love you. We will always love you no matter what, and you need to go." And our plan was him coming back in tears, asking to come back in the house, hoping that he would come back for a second chance so we could forgive him.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Repentant, right?
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'''TAMMY:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
Mom and dad stepped in the way. And they took him in, and they enabled him to build an even worse lifestyle.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
''Tsssk.'' That's tough...
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'''JACK:'''
Give him carte blanche, and, uh, deal drugs out of her- their house. And when I-
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Your mom and dad?
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'''JACK:'''
My mom and dad.
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'''BRIAN:'''
Your mom and dad.
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah, my mom and dad. And-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Was their perspective, they're just trying to offer help and-
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'''JACK:'''
They just didn't want him on the streets.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
And I'm like: "Look, this child's never been on the streets. He doesn't know streets. He'll be back. He'll- He'll maybe sleep in the yard, down the street in the park, but he... You know."
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
They ruined everything. In my mind, they ruined everything. They- They enabled him. So, uh... We had, uh-
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'''TAMMY:'''
We had Jack Junior.
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'''JACK:'''
We had, uh- We had Jack Junior during his rage years. Uh, Jack was how old when we kicked [Garrett] out?
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'''TAMMY:'''
Well, they're about ten years apart-
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'''JACK:'''
Ten years apart?
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'''TAMMY:'''
...So he was about six.
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'''JACK:'''
He- Yeah, he was about six years old. And one of the interesting things was our son, uh, Garrett, he would never rage when Jack Junior was around.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
He would never let him see him. He would never rage. He- He probably would've broken everything in the house, but Jack Junior was asleep when we kicked him out, and he didn't wanna scare his brother. And to this day, if you mention his name, right, Garrett will cry over us mentioning Jack Junior 'cause he loves him so much.  
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mmh.
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'''JACK:'''
So my- Both my boys have big hearts. They're little boys inside. But my son has been affected by an evil world, and he has, um- He still has never been back in the house. Um-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
What's your relationship like today with him? Do you have a relationship or-
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'''JACK:'''
Uh, yeah, he-
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'''TAMMY:'''
We have an amazing relationship with him. Ironically, he tells us everything. Everything that even we don't wanna know, to being jumped, to being stabbed, to what he's doing and where he's going, 'cause that's what I've always asked. I said: "If you're going somewhere, you're flying somewhere, you gotta let me know as a mom where you're gonna be." So if I know, world comes to an end, where my child is.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
How old is he?
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'''TAMMY:'''
Um, he's 25 now.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
25, right.
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'''TAMMY:'''
So, um- So he's done that. He's very open, more with Jack, because I don't know if I can handle a lot of this stuff.
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
 
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah. "No! I don't need to know!"
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'''TAMMY:'''
Because, I mean, he tells me through- You know, he tells me through Garrett, but, but it's just... it's one of those things. You're like: "He's our- We're praying, he's our prodigal son." He's coming here for Christmas.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Oh, that's good!
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'''TAMMY:'''
Um, and he's not staying in our house. Because he's still doing what he does.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''TAMMY:'''
And with Ga- With Jack [Junior] being 15... I mean, Jack- Jack Junior knows everything about Garrett. He knows his whole lifestyle, he knows everything, and it breaks Jack [Junior]'s heart because he knows he lost his brother because of drugs.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''TAMMY:'''
So, ummm- So Garrett will be staying in our timeshare that we have here, and then coming to stay with us during the day or whatever.
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'''JACK:'''
Jack Junior, umm... Jack Junior's awesome. He is- When Jack Junior was born, we- we told God we would do things differently. And we lifted him up and gave him to God. He goes- He- "We will take care of him, but he is yours."
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
"And he is yours to do whatever you will. If it means another country, and I don't get to see him ever again, if he has to go do your work somewhere else - use him any way, shape, or form, and we will support him no matter where you break his heart. But we will never tell him that he should be a pastor. We'll never mention the words. We'll never push him in any direction." And at age 13, Jack [Junior]'s in the backseat and he goes- he says: "Mom, Dad", he goes: "I know I'm never gonna be in the NFL, and I'm probably never gonna be a rock star." He goes: "But I'm really, really yearning to be, like, a youth pastor."
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy smile.]''
 
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'''JACK:'''
And that was the first time the word "pastor" was ever in a conversation with our ti- child and us. 'Cause we never wanted- We wanted to make sure it came from his heart-
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
...And that we never pushed in any direction. And, uh- And he just recently was offered marijuana for the first time this year.
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
And I- I wish he'd came to me, but what did he do? He called his brother.
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Oh, wow.
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
And his brother- His brother told him: "This is what you do. You get away. You never go near it. And the best way to avoid the peer pressure is say: 'I have a breathing problem.' Lie. This way, they won't make fun of you. They won't ever try to ask you again. Say: 'I have emphysema, or asthma, or whatever. I can go into an attack. I can't do that.'" He says: "That's- That will work, and that will save you from being embarrassed."
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
So the son with the drug addiction is helping the other son-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yes.
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Steer clear of that lifestyle.
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Absolutely!
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yes. Yeah.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
That's interesting.
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'''JACK:'''
He also advised him, he says: "Do what dad says. Do what dad- Had- Had I had it to do over again..."
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''[Jack's voice tears up.]''
 
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
"...I would've done what Dad said." And, you know, I've- I've advised people to: "Sometimes you gotta let your child go..."
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
"...To save the rest of the family."
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'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Bible says, you know: "You cut your- Cut your arm off, rip your eye out, whatever you gotta do to save the rest of the body." But it... ugh...
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<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
It actually brought us closer to Garrett, because Garrett felt like, not being in our house, he was able to be himself. And he's trying. He started going to church this year. To a church that is accepting of what he's doing. 'Cause in California you can get a green card and it's legal to carry. Um, just-
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
A medical card?
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<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
...Yeah, medical.
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah.
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<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Well, they have their green cards. But yeah. Green- Everybody has a green card for a different reason in California.
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''[Everyone laughs.]''
 
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
I know, I'm thinking: "Wait a minute, I'm confused! I don't know anything about these green cards!"
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<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah.
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<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
So, I mean, you-
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<font color="#4F7942">'''JACK:'''
These are different green cards. You roll them up and smoke them!
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<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah, you go-
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
So wait a minute. You can get a green card and carry pot in California?
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<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
You can- You can walk into a doctor. He has one that he pays, I think, at u- When they first came out years ago, they were $300 for three years.
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<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
You can-
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<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
It doesn't have to be medical? It can just be-
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