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We had, uh- We had Jack Junior during his rage years. Uh, Jack was how old when we kicked [Garrett] out?  
We had, uh- We had Jack Junior during his rage years. Uh, Jack [Junior] was how old when we kicked [Garrett] out?  
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We didn't- We didn't want any book that came alongside it. We didn't want any rituals that came alongside it. And if it ain't in the- If it ain't in the Word, it ain't.  
We didn't- We didn't want any book that came alongside it. We didn't want any rituals that came alongside it. And if it ain't in the- If it ain't in the Word - it ain't.  
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''[Sudden jumpcut as Jack erupts into more coughing.]''
''[Sudden jumpcut as Jack erupts into more coughing.]''
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'''TAMMY:'''
Okay, so the churches even in California where we went to are very "come as you are." Like, football season, we're all sporting our jerseys, and flip-flops and everything.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''TAMMY:'''
So I knew that that's what Jack, you know, not-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
This would be maybe more conservative-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yes.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Versus that-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yes.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Where you came from.
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'''TAMMY:'''
So- So anyway, so I knew Baptist. I'm like: "Stay away from the Baptist. You don't want Baptist because I'm s- You'll- You'll go back to your roots, like, not going to church."
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'''JACK:'''
And we won't- We're not gonna name names of churches out of respect.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
But, uh, first church we went to... they didn't- They played music, and it was all '70s rock and not one co- not one Godly song at all!
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'''TAMMY:'''
Not one Christian- Nothing.
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'''JACK:'''
And the guy's got hippie hair, and I'm like: "Okay..."
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'''TAMMY:'''
Well, in their defense, they were-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Great taste, '70s rock's awesome!
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''[Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
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'''TAMMY:'''
Well- And they were very- They were very opening. Like, they showed us the kids' room 'cause the kids were on camp that week, and- and Jack's like: "Well..." I mean, 'cause Jack had one question that he would always know to ask a pastor.
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'''JACK:'''
It's- It's: "Will you conduct a gay marriage?"
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
It's really simple. It's the one question you can ask any church, and it tells you everything about the church. And, uh, and the guy-
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'''TAMMY:'''
So he asked this la- Like, he asked this lady that was showing, and she's like: ''[smacks lips]'' "Well, I really think you should talk to the pastor about that, because my daughter's lesbian and- and we're okay with it, but you can talk to the pastor on his stance on that." We're like: "Oh. Hmmmh..."
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'''JACK:'''
So I walk up to the pastor. I'm like: "Hey, I'm just gonna ask you one question. Would you do a gay wedding?" And he's like: "Well..." I'm like: "Hey, nice knowing ya."
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
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'''JACK:'''
Okay. The moment he started "Well"-ing me-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
I just needed a no.
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'''JACK:'''
Are you really thinking? Really? So we went to another church, which, uh- which was okay. It wasn't- It wasn't mature enough yet. You could tell it was a starter church, a planted church that needed to grow a lot more.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
It wasn't really where we wanted to go. Um, and- I- I'm like- I just... I just- So I asked him: "Would you do a gay wedding?" and- at the end of service, I always waited 'til after. And he's like- He's like: "No." I'm like: "Oh, okay. Well, that's cool." I said: "But it's- This isn't really... I'm looking for a church that teaches straight out of the Bible, that will kick my butt out of the chair, and does nothing but Chris Tomlin music!"
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
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'''JACK:'''
Look, let's- Let's be real about this!
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
It is established!
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah, and I'd like an order of fries with that.
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'''JACK:'''
And he goes: "Oh! Yeah, you want Cornerstone!" Really!? Did you just send me to another church!? I was: "Awesome!"
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
It- Yeah, so- So we- We decide next, err, Wednesday, kids night and-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Well, we thought first the one in Madison was a satellite church, and I'm like: "I'm not going to sit there and watch a video! I wanna s- touch the- see the pastor! I wanna see him there!"
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'''JACK:'''
And then somebody told us it wasn't a satellite.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Right.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
It's a re- It's where it's happening. So we go Wednesday night, uh, to- We're like: "Okay, look, we're just gonna drop you off. We're gonna go Sunday. I know they have a Wednesday service, but we're not gonna sit at that." So-
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''[Brian and Tammy laugh.]''
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
I mean, we're in the Bible Belt, but really? Come on... ''[laughs]''
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah, yeah. Wednesday? Wednesday's like-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
What's up with that?
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'''JACK:'''
...Modern Family or something. Like, I don't even know why church is even open on Wednesday. So, so we- w- So we dropped them off, and we're walking by, and it's about ready to start. And she's like: "Well, why don't we just sit? I don't wanna have to go all the way home, and then come back in an hour. We'll just, we'll sit through the service. Let's check it out."
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'''TAMMY:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
So we sit down, and Pastor Davis gets up there, and he's like- First thing I hear him say: "We need to napalm the Palestinians." I'm like- I look at my hunny. I'm like: "Hunny, did he just say... Did the pastor just say we need to, like, wipe out a whole- everybody, like, over there?"
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah, for five minutes.
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'''JACK:'''
And he's like: "Yeah." And I- I'm like- I'm like, I stood up. "Where do I sign up?" Where- Just take all my money, do whatever.
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
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'''JACK:'''
Seriously, this is- Any pastor-
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"Do you have, like, a room? Can I get a cot or something? Like, I'll just stay here."
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'''JACK:'''
Exactly.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
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'''BRIAN:'''
"Put my tithe on auto debit!"
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah!
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'''JACK:'''
Right! I know! So it- So it- We knew it, the second he said that. The second he wasn't afraid about who's judging him, and he spoke the truth. "I don't hold back." And I thought: "This is the man I want to teach me. This is the guy who's gonna- who's gonna tell me: "Jack, quit pretending you're a Christian. Get out and save the world. It takes action." And that's the guy I wanted. So that's how we got to Cornerstone.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
So here's what I wanna ask. So this was Wednesday night. So what did you do that Saturday morning?
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'''JACK:'''
Saturday morning?
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'''TAMMY:'''
Oh, yeah. That was the men's thing. Okay, well, first-
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'''JACK:'''
I'm like: "Hunny, did you tell them-"
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'''TAMMY:'''
Wait, wait, wait!
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'''JACK:'''
"Did you tell them about our Saturday morning?"
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'''TAMMY:'''
No! First let's talk about-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
No!
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''[Everyone laughs.]''
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'''JACK:'''
I'm like: "Hunny, what did you guys talk before- before the show?"
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'''TAMMY:'''
What are you talking about?!
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
So this is- This is the part I may know, but I thought I was like-
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'''JACK:'''
I thought that was our time.
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I was like: "This guy's either amazing or crazy. I don't know which one."
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
It could go either way.
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'''TAMMY:'''
So... when we first walked in on Wednesday, we couldn't even get to our seats. And we all know how women are, right? Like, they don't talk to anybody new, right?
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Like, nobody talked to me.
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'''JACK:'''
No matter what city we were in.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Which is fine, and I don't care 'cause I don't like women. But it's okay!
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'''JACK:'''
You hate women!
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''[Krystal laughs.]''
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'''TAMMY:'''
So, um- Like, we couldn't even get to our seats. Jack was talking to, like, 25 guys.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Like Bud, then Rusty, then- I mean, just like- I'm like, oh, I'm just standing next to you. "I'm his wife. I'm his wife."
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
"Hello, I'm here!"
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah!
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'''JACK:'''
Oh. Oh, yeah.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah!
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'''JACK:'''
When I- When I walked in on Sun-
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'''TAMMY:'''
No- It was- it was Wednesday!
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'''JACK:'''
...or Saturday or Wednesday?
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'''TAMMY:'''
It was Wednesday.
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'''JACK:'''
Wednesday.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Because that's when you met Bud. Bud met you at the door. Then he introduced you to Rusty.
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'''JACK:'''
So Bud walks me over.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah?
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Bud...
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'''JACK:'''
Bud's a tall guy.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
He immediately brings me to Rusty. "Rusty, this guy", da da da da da. And Rusty goes: "Nice to meet you." He goes, um- He goes: "Hey, you want to, uh, help out with the men's breakfast?" And I'm like: "Um, sure. I cook for a living." And, uh, he says: "All right." He- I said: "What time do you want me there?" He goes: "4:30 in the morning." That's not when I eat breakfast!
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''[Everyone laughs.]''
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'''JACK:'''
He's like-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
"I'm confused!"
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'''JACK:'''
...He's like: "You gonna show? You need to bring your man card if you're gonna show. If you're not gonna show... yeah."
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
"We are highly committed and disciplined."
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''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
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'''JACK:'''
I'm like: "I'll show. I'll be there before you!" So I showed up for- for the men's breakfast.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
So that was on Saturday.
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'''TAMMY:'''
No, Wednesday.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
They visited on Wednesday, and he showed up on Saturday at the men's breakfast to serve.
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'''TAMMY:'''
And I stayed in bed 'cause it was for men.
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah. I was cooking my assignment and-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
So again, I was like: "The guy's either crazy or he's awesome. One or the other."
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'''JACK:'''
Oh, I- Yeah.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
You know?
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Maybe both. I don't know.
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'''BRIAN:'''
I think- I think it's still out on which one. ''[laughs]''
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah, it could be.
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah, the jury's still out.
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'''TAMMY:'''
I can tell you he's crazy. It's all good.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
But- But to feel that quickly, this is- this is where we're gonna be planted at, and to know this is where we belong-
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'''TAMMY:'''
Right.
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'''JACK:'''
People literally said: "You act like you've been here for years-"
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
"...And you've only been here a month." And I knew everybody in a month. It was crazy.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
It was... I had more friends, like, in the first few months than in all my life in California. It was- It- I- Unexplainable. So...
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
That's awesome. That's very cool.
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'''TAMMY:'''
So then you signed up for Pastor Davis's Bible study 'cause we was on enrollment.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah, Pastor Davis is in the parking lot 'cause we were doing the remodel, so he's directing traffic. I'm thinking: "The senior pastor's di-" It's dark outside, so he's waving me down. I'm the only one in there. There's no traffic.
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''[Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
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'''JACK:'''
I pull up, I'm like: "Uh, yes, sir?" He goes: "Just park over there. We're going in this door." Okay! So I get out and-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Which means somebody may not have done their job.
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'''JACK:'''
Right...
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''[Everyone laughs.]''
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'''JACK:'''
Yeah, so- Hah, sorry.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
"God works in those ways!" No, it's all good.
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'''JACK:'''
So I walk up to him and I go- I go: "Hi, sir, my name's..." He goes: "I know who you are." I went: "What?" He goes: "I know who you are. Your name's Jack Scafani. You have a really big YouTube show, and you have, uh, food products that you- that you market and..." A- A- And I'm like: "Really? A- and how am I gonna do in three years?"
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''[Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
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'''JACK:'''
I was like... he knew everything about me. And he's the senior pastor. And... and it- We clicked. It's- It's really cool tha- that I'm able to sit down with the senior pastor, have conversations...
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
...And just talk. And, uh- And he truly listens. I've always wanted- I have so many great ideas, and I've always wanted to share my ideas. And he listens! And, uh, you know, he'll tune out if it's not a good idea. He-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
And- And he'll-
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'''BRIAN:'''
And this- This is what you get when he starts tuning out.
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''[Brian head-bobs.]''
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
The head bob. The head bob, yeah.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
You know you're- you're done.
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'''TAMMY:'''
And we got that there. He's lost it.
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'''JACK:'''
All right.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
But- And he's honest, so he'll tell you if it's a terrible idea, or if it's a good idea.
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'''JACK:'''
Exactly.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
You don't have to worry.
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'''JACK:'''
Does he watch- Does he watch this, or listen to this podcast?
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'''BRIAN:'''
Uh...
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
We don't know.
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'''BRIAN:'''
Who knows?
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'''JACK:'''
Well, we'll find out!
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Hey, pastor~ ''[laughs]''
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'''BRIAN:'''
It gets talked about every week, so he should be. ''[laughs]''
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'''JACK:'''
I'm gonna- I'm gonna talk about him right now. You wanna- You know how to make the pastor happy?
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
How?
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'''JACK:'''
You wanna have a long conversation with him?
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
Longer than you thought? Alright, try pulling away from him.
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''[Brian laughs.]''
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Ohhh.
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'''JACK:'''
If you- If you- If you try to leave him alone, he engages. It- I got your number, pastor! Yeah.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
He likes people. Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
He doesn't like people who just cling onto him and won't let him go to his office, or to get to the next person who needs help, or whatever. So you- I- And I do it with all the pastors. It's- It's a kind of a respect. I know your time's valuable and you're-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''JACK:'''
...You're helping out a lot. I always do that. So he's like: "Oh, hey, Jack. Hey, so what did you think of-" "Oh, it was great!" And I start to pull away a little bit and I'm start- "Yeah, yeah, I can't wait 'til tonight." And he keeps talking.
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''[Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
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'''JACK:'''
And so I gotta walk back to him and I- And if you- If you give him that freedom that he can leave whenever he needs to - 'cause he gets so bombarded. I- I feel bad.
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'''BRIAN:'''
Oh, yeah.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
And it's- It's hard. He always-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
Well, you've got, you know, thousands of sheep that you're pastoring.
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'''BRIAN:'''
We were at Second Saturday the other week, and he wasn't there, and so I FaceTimed him. And he answered!
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''[Jack and Tammy laugh.]''
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
And I was mortified. I was going: "Do not FaceTime him! Do NOT FaceTime him!"
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'''BRIAN:'''
Everybody's cracking up. Everybody's cracking up like: "You're FaceTiming pastor?"
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'''JACK:'''
That's great.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
I was like: "Yeah, I'm FaceTiming pastor!"
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Good!
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
He's sitting on his back porch. He's like: "What are you doing?" I'm like: "What are YOU doing? You're supposed to be here."
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
We're like-
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
He's like: "I'm not supposed to be there. I'm sitting on my back porch."
</font>
''[Brian, Jack and Tammy laugh.]''
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
This is Galen- This is Galen's thing.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
That's right!
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
I told- I told-
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Pastor Galen Davis.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Great.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
...I told our Bible study that our church that we all go to is the biggest smallest ran church.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
'Cause you literally feel like you walk in and it's a small church, even though it's humongous.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Everybody's treat you like ''Little House on the Prairie''. 
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
It's just so amazing.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
It's just like ''Little House on the Prairie''. Everybody-
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Part of that's our Southern charm and hospitality. I'm just gonna throw that out there.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yes.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
What do you- Do you do PR? Is that what you do at the church?
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
No! No, I don't!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Oh, I'm just curious. ''[laughs]''
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
I'm just saying- I'm just saying as a proud Southerner.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
It's our Southern charm.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
No, I- I love it. I love everybody here. Uh, I- I love the saying- People love the saying is that "Tennessee is the closest thing to heaven without dying." And I really mean it.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
It truly is.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Well, and- And you know, w- We- We have great families, but the church, because you spend so much time there - they become your family.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
You know, when- When you don't have family around to help out. I mean, yesterday we were in desperate need of help, and Jennifer helped us-
</font>
''[Brian and Krystal gesture at Jennifer, who is off-camera.]''
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
...Picking up kids and doing things.
</font>
''[Krystal and Tammy start clapping.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yay!
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yay!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yay!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
You went home with your parents too?
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
But- But that's what the body's for.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
I mean, that's what the church is.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
The church-
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
And, and we ac-
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Oh, yeah-
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Yeah, we literally were talking about this; how sometimes we were looking around at- at a room full of people, or at a- at a wedding and thinking about some of the different couples there, and how you don't really see or hear that much about their- their blood relatives-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Maybe because of where they are in life, or where they live, or different things, but how connected- And I said that it's like, their family is truly inside-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Inside the church.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
It is.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
That- That is your family and your connection. Um, so go on.
</font>
''[Krystal gestures at Tammy.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Well, so last year for our- for Christmas, we'll do that. Um-
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
You're like this...
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Jack was raised that only your family- like, your immediate family comes to Christmas dinner. Like Christmas, ''Christmas'' dinner.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Oh, wait, what story are you telling?
</font>
''[Krystal laughs.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Relax! So I told him when we got- When we got our own house-
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Like the family?
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
...If anybody was gonna be alone for Christmas, after presents- after the morning presents... they're welcome to come to our house. God, it's just I- Nobody should be al- And that's how I was raised. Nobody should be alone for Christmas.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Right. Right.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
You know, so- You know, whatever. So with that policy that we created with our new house here in Tennessee, we had... Uh, and this is coming here from May last year when we first got here.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
And we're like: "Oh, So and So- Oh, so what do you do for Ch- Where do you go for Christmas?" "Oh, nowhere. I just don't have family anymore."
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah...
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
I'm like: "Oh, well, why don't you come over to our house?"
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Awww.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
And that caught over to these people-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah...
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
...And these people had nowhere to go, and they're like: "Hey, you know what? The So And Sos, they don't- They don't have family either."
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah...
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
"Maybe they can-" Okay, yeah, bring that family over. Sure.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Gift of hospitality maybe? Yeah?
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
20 people for Christmas dinner.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
20 people.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
That's great!
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Ohh ho ho...
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Ugh... Yeah...
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
It was like-
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Don't you love it, though? I mean-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Well, y- No, it was- It was amazing. It was- I mean, they were at our house 'til like, 9:00, 10:00.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Were you a little bit bitter?
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
No, I- Okay, we love to entertain.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
So I'm like the back- I mean, [Jack] does the cooking. I'm not a cook. Mmmh, nah. It sucks.
</font>
''[Krystal laughs.]''
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
She cooks cereal!
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
</font>
''[Brian laughs.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
I'll go buy a pie, okay?
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
So- Or vegetables, whatever.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
So 20 people at our house, and my parents are coming, right?
</font>
''[Krystal gasps.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And I tell my mom, I'm like: "Mom, um- We got people coming to our house for Christmas. I know you're gonna be here, and it- You know." She says: "Just as long as your dad has a seat, that's all I care about." I'm like: "Mom, I'm not putting a sign on my seat for my dad."
</font>
''[Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
"So if dad wants to sit there all night... I love you. That's good." So-
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah, I wouldn't move 'cause-
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
He's gonna have to stay planted!
</font>
<font color="#8b5805">
'''JASON:'''
[?]
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah, that's- That's not your seat, so I wouldn't move. Better hold it yourself.
</font>
<font color="#8b5805">
'''JASON:'''
[?]
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
So realize, 20 people in our house, no furniture - because it's all broken up, our living room furniture. So we have folding tables. We have chairs that I got to borrow from Russellville, Kentucky, from our- our break room. So I mean, it was amazing. It was a really good time.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
That's great.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
My parents got to see the true Tennessee southern love that was there.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Because it was just like we had known these people for years.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
That's great.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And, um- So my parents came back this year for Fourth of July.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And they stayed in our house 27 days. Um-
</font>
''[Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Give or take!
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
No!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
That's- That should be illegal!
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
That- That's a lengthy stay. ''[laughs]''
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Wait... you gotta cut that out.
</font>
''[Everyone starts laughing.]''
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
...Oh.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
What he ''meant'' to say was-
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
"We love you!" Right, cut filming at this point.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
"It was awesoooome! It was am-"
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
"We love them in our house!"
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
It's the best 27 days since you have lived here.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
I wasn't done! It should be illegal- They should stay for 31! A full month.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Anyway-
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
There you go. The invitation's back out.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
So because- ''NO!-'' So... they were here for 27 days, and they got to see how busy our life was.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And, like- My dad, like, literally was just so exhausted from running around. He's like-
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Crazy.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
I mean, 'cause we, like- Our only free nights right now are Tuesday and Thursday.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
That's it. And he's like: "You don't want me to st- Their life is so busy. I don't want it to be like that."
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
"It's just so exhausting."
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And I'm like, do they not remember when I was in high school, I was constantly running them around, too? Like, I have a high schooler.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Well, is it the perspective of, is it busy, or is it full? You have a full life?
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah. Well, we're- We're- We're constantly going-
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Oh, yeah.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
We're juggling between, you know, going- I mean, we- We go to church, like, three, four days a week now. Like, not just to go to church, but Bible study, then Jack's gotta go to church, or whatever. And my dad's like: "I guess, um..." That was the night where he, we went Sunday, Wednesday, Saturday, and Jack had an event on Friday night.
</font>
''[Brian laughs.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And he's like: "Well, Jack really spends a lot of time at that church..."
</font>
''[Krystal laughs.]''
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And I'm like: "Yeah? Like, he's connecting with the- the- his fellow people and his- his people he's gonna be doing life with." And he's like: "Well, I kinda guess it keeps him out of trouble." I'm like, "Well, it narrows it down."
</font>
''[Brian, Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah, and I'm like- I said- I said: "Look", I said: "This is- This is where we do life."
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
"We do. We- We eat with these people, and we play with these people, and we laugh with these people." I said: "It just happens to be we all go to the same church."
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
But, uh, it- It was interesting. We have unbeliever friends, and, with- that we hang out with, and that we really love and care about.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
But it was- It was interesting. I- I analyze things too much, but... A- And we invited them over for Christmas dinner to join us too, and it- and yet it- it wasn't the same. They felt out of place. Uh... they just didn't relax and kinda fit in. And I'm like- A- And I felt really bad because they're such great people. They have hearts as big as everybody in that room, and yet they- there's something missing.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Mm-hmm.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
And I don't know how to explain that. And I can't explain it to them. And I felt really bad. But, uh, they were good people. But, uh- And you know Tony at church?
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Tony...?
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
The parking lot Tony.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Doore.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Oh, yeah. I know.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah, and he runs the parking lot now. Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah, he runs the parking lot. He's "Head of Parking Lot"!
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Ouhhh. Nice briefing. ''[laughs]''
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
So, um- Uh, he- He's not one to go out and be with people, and he's more of an introvert. And we're really close. I met him the morning of the men's breakfast.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Oh, that's cool.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
He sat next to me, and we bonded in five minutes. He goes: "I've never bonded with a guy like- You know- I mean- We're- I- I wanna hang out. Let's go do breakfast." And anyway, he came to our house. He stayed as lo- All night! The whole night, and we-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
He was the life of the party!
</font>
''[Brian and Krystal laugh.]''
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
He was the life of the whole party!
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Oh my gosh, everybody was around him!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
And he said: "That was the best Christmas I've ever had."
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Oh, that's very cool.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
And I'm like: "Ahhh..." So that's kind of-
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
That's what it's about!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
...All of it in a nutshell there.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
That's awesome.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Wow. It's been a crazy life.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Good story.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
So Tammy has a normal job. Jack is on YouTube and has somewhat of a- a-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Tough drive up the stairs going to work.
</font>
''[Krystal and Tammy laugh.]''
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah!
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah...
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
He's gotta comb his hair to get ready!
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah!
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yeah! Um, yeah, that's about it.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah...
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Well, that's awesome. And, you know, it- it is. It's funny. It's definitely, God orchestrates things and puts people in your life. And, uh, you know, Jack and I have talked. I- It- It wasn't coincidence that- that we met up and had a connection. And, uh, we definitely have a love of food, and I'm sure we'll eat many more meals together over the-
</font>
''[Jack does a self-clasping handshake.]''
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
...The course of, uh, the years to come. So, we love you guys. Thank you for coming on, and being with us, and sharing your story.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
We love you guys, too. Thank you so much.
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
We love you, too.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
Absolutely. It was great.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah. Um, so definitely check out Jack's sauces. I'm telling you, you won't regret it.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
And isn't the teriyaki, is it low sodium, or is it-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
Yes, low sodium per demands.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Which I puff up like a pu-
</font>
<font color="#9B59B6">
'''TAMMY:'''
And low in sugar!
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
...Pufferfish. So I appreciate that greatly.
</font>
<font color="#4F7942">
'''JACK:'''
Yes.
</font>
<font color="#F66E00">
'''BRIAN:'''
Yes.
</font>
<font color="#0F00EA">
'''KRYSTAL:'''
So yeah, it's really good.
</font>
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'''BRIAN:'''
So good... Um, so check Jack out, YouTube - Cooking With Jack, Jack On The Go.Uh, the website for your sauces - Best Sauces Ever?
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'''JACK:'''
TheBestSauces.com.
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'''BRIAN:'''
BestSauces.com.
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'''JACK:'''
Mm-hmm.
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'''BRIAN:'''
Uh, so you can go and order them there. Or if you're local, just tell him. He'll bring them to you at church.
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''[Tammy laughs.]''
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'''JACK:'''
Or- Or come by the house.
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'''BRIAN:'''
Or come by the house. That's right.
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'''JACK:'''
I have an open door. I have an open door policy. I'm in Tennessee now.
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'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
If- If the garage is open, the house is open.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
And I know where you live when I run because I- I see the- the van.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yes.
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''[Brian laughs.]''
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
I'm like: "Oh, that's- That's his van right there! Right there!"
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'''BRIAN:'''
You can't miss his van. It's wrapped.
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
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'''JACK:'''
Oh, that's true, huh?
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'''TAMMY:'''
Yeah.
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'''BRIAN:'''
So, uh, thank you guys for listening. We've been getting some good feedback this week, um, and just a crazy spike in traffic this week, and lots of, uh, downloads and- and views on the videos. And so, um- Lots of people stopping at, at church this week just randomly and asking questions. So it's been- It's been good. It's been exciting. And, um, we will, starting in October, the last Sunday of each m- uh, each month, we're gonna have, uh, a new thing that we're doing called the Marriage Toolbox, where we'll sit down with Jason and Jennifer, and we'll go over some of the foundational things, um, that we- that we go over in the Marriage 101 life group that we do. So be sure to check that out. We'll talk about, you know, what a biblical marriage is and the purpose for a biblical marriage. We'll talk about finances, and sex, and love and respect.
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
"Let's talk about sex, baby!"
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''[Everyone laughs.]''
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'''BRIAN:'''
Hey, Krystal-
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'''JACK:'''
Hey, that's copyright infringement!
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'''BRIAN:'''
Oh-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
It wasn't that long!
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'''JACK:'''
That's it. Come on. Time's out.
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'''BRIAN:'''
It's over!
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''[Krystal looks over at Jennifer.]''
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
That's what she said!
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''[Everyone laughs harder.]''
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'''BRIAN:'''
She had to go there. She had to go there... and you just left Jason hanging. He probably signed up for-
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'''KRYSTAL:'''
I love it!
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''[Krystal high-fives Jason.]''
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'''JACK:'''
Great! YouTube just changed the rating!
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'''BRIAN:'''
Yeah. Yep, that's it. So, um, check us out: SundayEveningCoffee.com. Send us an email. Let us know what you think about the show. Any feedback, we'd love to hear it: SundayEveningCoffee@gmail.com. So, um- As always, go to iTunes, review, rate, subscribe. That does make a difference. And I- I say this, and I- I don't mean it from a haughty standpoint, but seriously subscribe because I would love to have good Christian content be up in the new and noteworthy, as opposed to some of the stuff that's out there. So, uh, go check that out. And, uh- Again, thanks to Jack and Tammy for being here, and Jason and Jennifer, as always. And we will see you guys next week. Have a good night!
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